GRACE: Leonard, you actually talked to them on numerous occasions. Do you think the grandparents really believe Casey Anthony?
PADILLA: No, no. They know the truth. Casey`s already divulged it to Lee. Lee has informed Cindy. As far as George, that I wouldn`t know. He`s the guy that`s really, you know, sometimes kept out of the loop and I feel real sorry for him.
GRACE: What do you mean she`s divulged the truth?
PADILLA: I believe that after the samples came out from the Tennessee and the FBI a week ago, more than a week ago, 10 days ago, that she probably told Lee, who told Cindy, because their whole attitude changed dramatically the very next morning. Thursday morning, it was kind of an offensive attack on she`s alive, she`s alive. Somebody put a body in the car and all that kind of stuff started coming out real strong.
GRACE: But if they really believe that it was another body in the car, not little Caylee, then that seems that they`re buying Casey Anthony`s story.
PADILLA: No, no, they`re not buying her story. They know what happened. They`re trying to make the best of it. They lost a granddaughter. They don`t want to lose a daughter.
GRACE: Out to the lines. Mike in Florida. Hi, Mike.
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